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# Colin Bowern said on March 27, 2007 07:27 PM:

CC.NET + MSBuild or NAnt + Subversion + TargetProcess works great here.

# Karthik said on March 27, 2007 08:03 PM:

TFS definitely gives a lot of value for the leadership/project management types with the work item tracking and changeset/release management.  Despite its lacking in continuous integration and a decent unit testing framework, it definitely changes the game when it comes to version control and project management.

I've often mentioned to my leadership that many of the things we bought TFS for could be accomplished using far cheaper tools.  However I can't argue against the fact that the work item tracking and source control work together in such a seamless integration that no other solution can provide.

# Ayende Rahien said on March 27, 2007 08:23 PM:

> I am starting to get sick of Subversion

Why?

# http:// said on March 27, 2007 08:44 PM:

Begin the Begin is off Life's Rich Pageant, which is IMHO by far R.E.M.'s best album. Begin the Begin rocks, These Days rocks, I Believe rocks. Superman is just fun to sing along with. And as an old bass player, Cuyahoga and The Flowers of Guatemala are fun to play.

Sorry, but I figure you post what you're listening to for a reason.

# Andy Stopford said on March 27, 2007 09:40 PM:

Did you give MbUnit a run Sam?

Andy

# SamGentile said on March 28, 2007 02:07 AM:

Not yet on MBUnit but I did read up on it. I passed it by Steve who really came from the standpoint that he/we are not seeing any pain points with NUnit so there isn't this big drive to replace. We still acknowledge its better but not enough so to make it a slam dunk. I am still trying to give it a go.

# SamGentile said on March 28, 2007 02:08 AM:

> CC.NET + MSBuild or NAnt + Subversion + TargetProcess works great here.

We use CC.NET + MSBuild + Subversion

# SamGentile said on March 28, 2007 02:13 AM:

> > I am starting to get sick of Subversion Why?

I am seeing corruption type problems although I think its because I am trying to use FolderShare to also sync those directories between systems.

Its more that I want integrated work item tracking + burn down charts + one interface for all devs and management types. We have bugs in Gemni, design in Wiki, item tracking all over the place. I would like one interface and one system. I think people should not throw away the baby with the bath water with TFS. It sucks for Unit Testing and for CI but can be used effectively for Work Item Tracking and source control.

# SamGentile said on March 28, 2007 02:15 AM:

>Begin the Begin is off Life's Rich Pageant, which is IMHO by far R.E.M.'s best album

Yes, they were so much better then. I saw a concert of theirs from 2004 on concertTV and they begun with this song and it still kicked.

# Andy Stopford said on March 28, 2007 08:06 AM:

Sam to quickly cover some areas. Are you testing as widest range of test possible  values and how are you testing that? MbUnit can allow for thousands of sequences in one line and in a few more lines a few more thousand sequences across differnt types. Do you have other data to test, for example xml data, array data, collection data etc. Do you have a requirement to test private methods etc etc. I would be happy to speak to Steve about what and how you are testing and how MbUnit can help.

# TrackBack said on April 5, 2007 06:40 PM:

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